Even more to the point, Alberto, I just saw this headline. What does this speak 
to you?
 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/earth/greenpolitics/10965887/People-who-claim-to-worry-about-climate-change-use-more-electricity.html
 
 
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From: Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>
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Sent: Mon, Jul 14, 2014 12:43 pm
Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy?


Among the grateful TV watchers,  the comrades chris "solar" Morsella
and Quentin "Burner" anciaux will enjoy a good life as  eco-policemen
and will be allowed to earn an motorcycle build on Cuba that will
produce healty proletarian smog.

2014-07-14 18:31 GMT+02:00, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>:
> A few small jets for the world elite and their big families would be
> enough.
>
> The few  millions TV watchers remaining from the depopulation,
> indoctrinated and impoverished, will applaud  to the passing jets in
> the ground.
>
> 2014-07-14 17:51 GMT+02:00, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com>:
>> On Sat, Jul 12, 2014 at 8:50 PM, Russell Standish <li...@hpcoders.com.au>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I saw that webpage, but it didn't quote anything, nor give any form of
>>> justification. [...] I'm thinking that the velocity factor needed to
>>> compute maximum power
>>> ought to perhaps be exhaust gas velocity anyway. It seems likely to me
>>> that aircraft engines should be able to increase exhaust velocity and
>>> correspondingly reduce thrust as velocity increases, keeping power
>>> constant
>>>
>>
>> You don't need to consider any of that to see if the figure I used, 140
>> megawatts of average power, is in the right ballpark needed to keep a 747
>> in the air. At takeoff a 747 can hold 60,000 gallons of gasoline and stay
>> in the air for about 12 hours, so that's about 5000 gallons a hour. One
>> gallon of gas contains 34,000 watt hours of energy. So 34,000 watt hours
>> /gallon * 5000 gallons/hour = 170 megawatts.
>>
>> So it looks like my estimate that if you want to go with solar then a
>> factory that covered 6 square miles of the Earth’s surface  would be
>> needed
>> to keep just one 747 in the air may have been a a bit on the low side.
>>
>>   John K Clark
>>
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