I mean.. I know that preventive abortions of low class people, homosexualization and proletarization of women working 8x7x365 away from home is the solution, but some of us can survive and have to dress something.
2014-07-13 10:21 GMT+02:00, Alberto G. Corona <agocor...@gmail.com>: > Comrades: > > Textile plants demand also a lot of energy. Do will be allowed to > dress the Mao suit at least? > > Just to know better what our Lords though for us, in order to love > them even more. > > > > 2014-07-13 5:52 GMT+02:00, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > <everything-list@googlegroups.com>: >> >> >> >> >> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] On Behalf Of meekerdb >> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 8:27 PM >> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? >> >> >> >> On 7/12/2014 4:37 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> From: everything-list@googlegroups.com >> [mailto:everything-list@googlegroups.com] >> Sent: Saturday, July 12, 2014 3:43 PM >> To: everything-list@googlegroups.com >> Subject: Re: How will air travel work in a green solar economy? >> >> >> >> I don't see people rushing into uranium and thorium power, nor, do I see >> fusion coming along in two decades. For spaceflight, yes, for commercial >> power, we just don't seem to be lucky with the physics of the universe. >> Perhaps new discoveries about stellar formation might finally boost >> things >> along, in 100 years. People are way too afraid of fission, and lets face >> it, >> its costs a bitch. Wind and sun are the only thing going forward, that >> seems >> with the grasp of the species, if only because theres lots of it out >> there >> to be harvested, and the price is right. What's killing it are 2 things. >> One >> is storage tech, for nights, wintertime, summer storms, smog. We need >> cheap >> reliable storage tech, plus we need quick transmission lines to pipe it >> where needed. The Germans developed some kind of closed cycle wind, sun, >> and >> methane (nat gas) for the inclement days. Sounds doable, and likely, >> affordable. >> >> >> >> Grid scale storage is one dimension - and this is needed not only for >> smoothing out intermittency, but also to demand shift away from peak load >> periods. The truth is that the grid is stressed to the breaking point by >> peak summer time load conditions and is ill equipped (as currently built) >> to >> handle surges etc. so that relatively small events can have massive >> consequences - such as region wide blackouts. >> >> Forward sited - in key distribution nodes at large urban centers of >> demand >> -- grid scale flow batteries (using low cost environmentally benign >> reagents >> stored in external tanks - they can scale out in capacity by adding more >> tanks. ) would be my choice. In this manner off peak supply could be >> forward stored at large distribution nodes to supply a portion of the >> local >> area networks electricity demand without needing to deliver this extra >> increment of power through high tension lines already sagging from >> over-heating. >> >> Another nice way of time shifting demand is systems that use off peak >> supply >> to freeze water balls in tanks of water, doing so in the middle of the >> night. During the hot afternoon peak load period (and peak need for >> air-conditioning the stored "cold" is harvested to help meet demand, >> without >> incurring any extra load. >> >> In addition to storage better micro-scale and both near real time and >> forward projecting weather forecasting will help manage the balance of >> supply and demand. >> >> >> When everyone has plug-in electric cars they will sign up to allow their >> batteries be used as buffer storage. >> >> >> >> I really like that idea as well. when one does the numbers, in their >> aggregate, if say 20% of all cars were pure electric (+ a mix of say an >> additional 10% of plug-in hybrids) that is a lot of very well distributed >> (& >> very survivable) battery storage capacity. It would be fun to help write >> the >> software to run such a wide distributed power exchange. or the client >> software providing management and configuration ability to owners to >> manage >> how their cars interact with the market when plugged in -- naturally >> closely >> integrated into the car computer. a process running on it, aware of >> current >> battery capacity, market conditions, expected near term future power >> needs. >> A kind of arbitrage smart agent running on plugged in cars and mediating >> their interaction (they are the edge nodes) with the larger wide area >> power >> (&information) network. >> >> There are also some large scale closed loop pumped storage solutions I >> like, >> especially a recent large one in Southern California - the Eagle Crest >> project (which is now in final stages of approval) - is designed to align >> with the CSP, wind and PV electricity production going on there. It >> consists >> of - as usual - of a high and a low reservoir that are linked by a >> reversible turbine/pump. The high reservoir is an abandoned open pit iron >> mine and the water is, I recall, somewhat brackish ground water (not >> suitable for agriculture). The system - when built - would pair very >> well >> with all the intermittent energy sources in the close by regions - there >> is >> quite a bit of wind energy getting harvested down there too. It would >> have >> a >> 1.3 GW capacity. I seem to remember that something around 10% of Japan's >> electric capacity is in the form of that nations installed, pumped hydro >> capacity - smoothing out the daily cycles of peaks and the troughs. >> >> Chris >> >> >> >> Brent >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Everything List" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > > -- > Alberto. > -- Alberto. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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