On Sat, Aug 16, 2014 at 6:35 AM, LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> wrote: > Pierz, you have said exactly the reason why I am willing to give Bruno's > ideas so much time. It's the fact that IF he's right, then he has actually > caught sight of the end of the explanatory chain, which otherwise has only > ever been grounded in an unsatisfactory deity or a "chain of turtles" - > i.e. it's thought to never end - or it ends at a brute fact of some sort, > some "shut up and calculate" beyond which we supposedly can't go. > > A TOE should start from something that's necessarily so, and so far the > only thing I've ever come across that's necessarily so is stuff like 1+1=2, > with apologies to Stephen P King and anyone else who thinks we just made > that up. But so far there isn't anything else except God, turtles and shut > up .... is there? > > Admittedly we may just not have thought of the correct end-of-chain yet, > so this may be like looking for your keys under a lamp-post because that's > the well lit part of the street. But it's always *possible* the keys are > in the well-lit part.... Hence I give a lot of mental houseroom to comp, > and any other theory that starts from something that's grounded in > (apparent) logical necessity. Are there any other such theories? I have a > feeling that "it from bit" goes in that sort of direction, as does A. > Garrett Lisi, Max T of course, Julian Barbour? I guess any TOE which claims > that some set of equations is isomorphic to the universe is nodding in that > direction, and as Max Tegmark says we just need to reduce the baggage > allowance. Even Edgar Owen's computational idea has some merit on the "it > from bit" front (although I don't think it's particularly original ... and > of course it fails to address about 99% of known physics.) > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >
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