On 20 Aug 2014, at 07:08, Kim Jones wrote:



On 18 Aug 2014, at 5:33 am, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:

Is there a kind of soul that is independent of memory but is a "person"?

Well, you'd want to hope so by now, surely. After all, if there isn't, then.... "What's It All (been) About, Alfie?"

No cul-de-sacs. Consciousness sails on via FPI. You cannot experience a no-world world, so there is (apparently) no rest "rest eternal" for the wicked or the poor by ducking into a "death world" where you cease to exist.

Existence for consciousness is mandatory; obviously. Consciousness then mandates "unconsciousness" or the dreamworld repository of all those things about our archetypal self we cannot experience at will but are subjected to via dreams, premonitions, intuitions, hunches, wisdom of all sorts.

The amnesiac no-memory-between-instantiations thing might be explained by the fact that every possible instantiation of you is up and running right now and there are now very many histories smeared across the MV. Which memories would you default to following death in one universe? Why don't I possess a memory spanning from Gronk the Caveman all the way through lives scattered over 200 or so thousand years of homo sapiens to me here right now? Must have something to do with that god damned first person thing again. Bruno should get the Nobel Prize for discovering FPI.

Thanks. I would appreciate :)

Yet Obama signed the NDAA-12, after getting the Peace Nobel prize, so well, ... And, in Paris and Brussels they can even make prize disappearing.

Well, as long as they don't made the number 17 disappearing ...


But a person is a very stable thing. Quantum Immortality: "a conscious entity cannot cease to exist". That's a good basic definition of a "person". Perhaps. A stable information pattern that persists and is self-conscious.

OK.



Could live happily on a hard disk somewhere.


I would not say that he can live on a hard disk, it needs the relation with the universal numbers, below and above the substitution level. It actually has those relations, but if you want it sharing them with you, you need to find a universal number already stable in your (probable) environments to "implement" it. We use computers today, and nature used brains, and genomes before.

Bruno



Kim

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