On 3 September 2014 16:15, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hi LizR,
>
>    Yes, I am saying that  there may be AIs around already unaware of our
> existence and vice versa! Cultures, languages, religions, etc. all have the
> behaviors that we would associate with entities that are to some degree
> "self-aware" in that there are "self-replication" behaviors associated -
> See Dawkin's The extended Phenotype
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Extended_Phenotype> - Humans are quite
> capable of becoming members of a sufficiently expressive language as
> silicon hardware...
>
> While not disagreeing with this general idea (it's rather intriguing) I'm
not sure "self-aware" is entailed by "self-replicating" ?! "The Extended
Phenotype", iirc (it's a long time since I read it, which was around when
it first came out) posits that the environment of an organism gets
entrained by its genes, effectively - or to put it another way, that the
body doesn't end at the skin (or bark, etc). That seems kind of the inverse
of the "AGI hypothesis" ?

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