Hi LizR, My point about Aliens being AGI is simple. A sufficiently advanced alien civilization may very likely have had a Singularity of its own in the past and what survived are the machines!
We forget that the Turing test is merely a test for an ability to deceive humans.... "In that case they were built by someone else. " I don't think that AI works like that, now that I am thinking about it. One could take the ID argument seriously and reach that conclusion. I don't think that an AGI can be "designed" any more than you and I are not designed. OTOH, -Following the ID concept for a bit longer - intelligent entities can create conditions and environments within which AGI can evolve. I submit that we will be just as unable to fathom the operations of the "mind" of an AGI as we are of each other's minds. This "unfathomability" is an inherent property of a mind. It is the inability to predict exactly its behavior. My "proof" - if I should call it that - is a bit technical. It involves an argument based on the ability of pair of computers to simulate each others behavior and to have the simulations predicted by another computer. If one computer X could exactly simulate another computer Y, then it is easy to show that X could include Y as a sub-algorithm of some kind and thus X would be able to "inspect" arbitrary content of the mind of B. Is this correct so far? On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 8:03 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: > On 3 September 2014 11:31, Stephen Paul King <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> What if the aliens are AI? >> > > In that case they were built by someone else. > >> >> >> On Tue, Sep 2, 2014 at 7:19 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> On the subject of AI dooming us, at least we have John Mikes' benevolent >>> aliens looking out for us. Unless their aim was to get the AIs ... but why >>> not build one themselves? (Come to think of it why not build US themselves?) >>> >>> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the > Google Groups "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this topic, visit > https://groups.google.com/d/topic/everything-list/YJeHJO5dNqQ/unsubscribe. > To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to > [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- Kindest Regards, Stephen Paul King Senior Researcher Mobile: (864) 567-3099 [email protected] http://www.provensecure.us/ “This message (including any attachments) is intended only for the use of the individual or entity to which it is addressed, and may contain information that is non-public, proprietary, privileged, confidential and exempt from disclosure under applicable law or may be constituted as attorney work product. If you are not the intended recipient, you are hereby notified that any use, dissemination, distribution, or copying of this communication is strictly prohibited. If you have received this message in error, notify sender immediately and delete this message immediately.” -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
