This list contains a number of opposites, people I mean, as exemplified by
John and Kim.
Yet the opposites in their own way are very knowledgeable and
sophisticated, far more than I,
I am afraid, which is why I am reluctant to post here very often.

But my point is that we all should learn to appreciate the opposites
as well as the integrators like Bruno, who finds theology in mathematics.

Personally I start with theology and assume that the most important
teachings in each religion are correct.
So from Judaism I take that the universe is one and not a mulitverse (ie.,
where every choice is materialized,
and consciousness and morality are illusions).

Judaism also tells me that I can become entangled with the unknown god(s)
in three ways- via heart, mind and soul.
The far eastern religions, not sure which, one tells me via hari kari that
my soul is located in my solar plexus
below my rib cage. My heart is of course under the rib cage and my mind is
in my brain in my head.

On this basis beheading is perhaps more spiritual than hari kari,
as the physical consciousness is separated from the heart and soul,
rather than the soul separated from the heart and head.

>From Hinduism and Buddhism I learn that head, heart and soul are
characterized by chakras.
>From the cabala I learn that there are 2 vertical rows of chakras,
and from personal personal touch I learn that there are 16 levels of
chakras:
4 levels for the soul, and above it 4 levels for the heart, and 8 levels
for the head including the neck..

This results in a correspondence with string theory where there are 16
different charges and a 32-fold symmetry.
I have already presented where I went from there- to  universes that create
cosmic consciousnesses, a metaverse that creates matter and even records of
everything that ever became physical in every universe perhaps along with
every future possibility
since all future possibilities can be computed... which makes predictions
confusing.

Anyway IMO this approach tells me what mathematics must do- compute all the
possibilities..
According to Liebniz, cosmic consciousness then chooses the best of all
future possibilities.
Humans do not always consciously choose the best of all possibilities.
Richard



On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:02 AM, John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kim Jones <kimjo...@ozemail.com.au>
> wrote:
>
> > Then why didn’t Plato discover Quantum Mechanics 2500 years ago?
>>>
>> > He did!
>>
>
> Like hell he did!
>
> > The shadow cast on the wall of the cave was something he was prepared to
>> doubt. Just as, much later, Young’s two-slit experiment cast the shadows of
>> doubt about the structure of reality
>>
>
> And Kennedy and Lincoln were strongly linked. The wife of Kennedy's killer
> Lee Harvey Oswald was named "Marina",  and Lincoln once owned a rowboat.
> Coincidence? I think not.
>
>   John K Clark
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