On 21 Sep 2014, at 09:46, Richard Ruquist wrote:
This list contains a number of opposites, people I mean, as
exemplified by John and Kim.
Yet the opposites in their own way are very knowledgeable and
sophisticated, far more than I,
I am afraid, which is why I am reluctant to post here very often.
But my point is that we all should learn to appreciate the opposites
as well as the integrators like Bruno, who finds theology in
mathematics.
Personally I start with theology and assume that the most important
teachings in each religion are correct.
I think so too. It is well illustrated in the book "philosophia
perennis" by Aldous Huxley.
So from Judaism I take that the universe is one and not a mulitverse
(ie., where every choice is materialized,
and consciousness and morality are illusions).
Well, the universe is still a "one". or you would have burned Giordano
Bruno when he claims that there were other worlds, which at his time,
was the other planets, may be with lives or other lives.
Judaism also tells me that I can become entangled with the unknown
god(s) in three ways- via heart, mind and soul.
The far eastern religions, not sure which, one tells me via hari
kari that my soul is located in my solar plexus
below my rib cage. My heart is of course under the rib cage and my
mind is in my brain in my head.
On this basis beheading is perhaps more spiritual than hari kari,
as the physical consciousness is separated from the heart and soul,
rather than the soul separated from the heart and head.
From Hinduism and Buddhism I learn that head, heart and soul are
characterized by chakras.
From the cabala I learn that there are 2 vertical rows of chakras,
and from personal personal touch I learn that there are 16 levels of
chakras:
4 levels for the soul, and above it 4 levels for the heart, and 8
levels for the head including the neck..
This results in a correspondence with string theory where there are
16 different charges and a 32-fold symmetry.
I have already presented where I went from there- to universes that
create cosmic consciousnesses, a metaverse that creates matter and
even records of everything that ever became physical in every
universe perhaps along with every future possibility
since all future possibilities can be computed... which makes
predictions confusing.
Anyway IMO this approach tells me what mathematics must do- compute
all the possibilities..
According to Liebniz, cosmic consciousness then chooses the best of
all future possibilities.
Humans do not always consciously choose the best of all possibilities.
Hmm, this is a bit fuzzy, as I guess you are aware, and a bit
Aristotelian with respect to the consequence of computationalism, I
think. But making the level very low can help to find quasi-rendering
of non-comp-like theories, but I would need more evidences, and I take
the QM superposition/many-relative-states theories as confirming what
comp predicts if we look at ourselves below our level of substitution.
Of course comp can also be false. I appreciate you read many religious
text, as indeed the "truth" is more or less what is common in all of
them.
Bruno
Richard
On Sun, Sep 21, 2014 at 12:02 AM, John Clark <[email protected]>
wrote:
On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:58 PM, Kim Jones
<[email protected]> wrote:
> Then why didn't Plato discover Quantum Mechanics 2500 years ago?
> He did!
Like hell he did!
> The shadow cast on the wall of the cave was something he was
prepared to doubt. Just as, much later, Young's two-slit experiment
cast the shadows of doubt about the structure of reality
And Kennedy and Lincoln were strongly linked. The wife of Kennedy's
killer Lee Harvey Oswald was named "Marina", and Lincoln once owned
a rowboat. Coincidence? I think not.
John K Clark
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