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Leonardo probably did that some kind of generational spaceship. Just haven't 
uncovered it yet. I suppose my point is that I don't think it'll take too much 
longer historically speaking for us to even decide that we're alone or that 
life is Pluripotent, everywhere. Maybe only 100 years will human species decide 
if this is valid or not? If life seems abundant everywhere,  I suspect that 
will be a great drive for human species, and it's artificial intelligence 
companions to investigate this new realm of life. The answer is that the nearer 
universe, at least, appears to be dead, appears to be the bereft of life, I 
feel we will turn inwards. 

 If We remain a sophisticated civilization, we should be able to leave space 
exploration for the robots, until such a time and and place where we uncover 
something dynamically interesting. But this is for another generation to 
decide, and not ours. Which makes things,  seem, our world, our times, our 
worries, seem so temporary. On the other hand I am now reading the work by 
Clement Vidal, of Free University, Brussels, a colleague, of Bruno Marchal, on 
the meaning and purpose of intelligence, life, and cosmology, leading to the 
far future-a very, different perspective indeed.
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Hmm. "God's quarantine regulations" in action?
  
  

   

  
  

According to "Rare Earth" you may need a lot of Goldilocks stuff to work out 
for life to exist. But I'd imagine something unicellular could get going in a 
lot of environments that wouldn't support multicellular life, and multicellular 
could get going in lots of places that wouldn't support technologically 
advanced species, and so on. But a centauri is a triple star and barnard's is 
an M type dwarf IIRC, neither may be as suitable as a single G or K type. Maybe 
Tau Ceti would be a better bet, admittedly a bit further to go (5 light years 
further IIRC!) But those AIs are patient. Also there's the possibility of 
getting small space ships that don't require life support up to relativistic 
speeds with antimatter or a light sail. I'd be happy to wait 50 years for news 
from another star, 
  
  

while 500 is pushing it a bit. (Shame Leonardo didn't invent a generation 
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They will have the same chirality, if they exist. It seems inordinately, 
maddening, if no other life exits, however, maybe if we don't (assuming there's 
still a human species) find bacterial life in 100 years, our descendants, will 
give up. Best guess? A AI probe to centauri and barnards star. If sophisticated 
scans prove zippo, the natural thing to do is to turn inward. For everyone but 
astronomy AI's, the stars will just be little lights in the skies. The 
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           This possibly implies that most life in the universe may have 
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