On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:26 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> wrote:
> On 11/16/2014 2:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 16 Nov 2014, at 08:45, LizR wrote: > > On 16 November 2014 07:42, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote: > >> On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> > The idea that computers are people has a long and storied history. >>> >> >> I would maintain that from a long term operational viewpoint it doesn't >> matter if the humans on the Supreme Court consider computers to be people >> or not, the important thing is if computers consider humans to be people or >> not. >> >> Making certain probably reasonable assumptions, that is quite likely. > > > > Only if we remember that money is a tool, and not a goal. If money is > the goal, machines will correctly conclude that humans are not affordable: > they need 02, plants, a very rich and complex environment, etc. But with > some luck we will be digital before, and get more affordable in the > machine's point of view. > > To say that corporation are person is, imo, a rather big error. Only > machine having the Löbian ability can be considered as person, and > corporations are not. > > > A corporation is just a group of humans. Why wouldn't it have Lobian > ability? > Dumb machines can be made of people. This is achieved by having very narrow person-system interfaces. Consider the cliché of factory workers doing a repetitive gesture the entire day. Corporations are more complex, because they are made of humans with varied levels of agency. I wonder if they are Löbian or not, but I don't think it's clear either way. Telmo. > > Brent > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
