On 17 Nov 2014, at 12:07, Telmo Menezes wrote:
On Sun, Nov 16, 2014 at 8:26 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]>
wrote:
On 11/16/2014 2:56 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 16 Nov 2014, at 08:45, LizR wrote:
On 16 November 2014 07:42, John Clark <[email protected]> wrote:
On Sat, Nov 15, 2014 at 12:39 PM, <[email protected]> wrote:
> The idea that computers are people has a long and storied history.
I would maintain that from a long term operational viewpoint it
doesn't matter if the humans on the Supreme Court consider
computers to be people or not, the important thing is if computers
consider humans to be people or not.
Making certain probably reasonable assumptions, that is quite
likely.
Only if we remember that money is a tool, and not a goal. If money
is the goal, machines will correctly conclude that humans are not
affordable: they need 02, plants, a very rich and complex
environment, etc. But with some luck we will be digital before, and
get more affordable in the machine's point of view.
To say that corporation are person is, imo, a rather big error.
Only machine having the Löbian ability can be considered as person,
and corporations are not.
A corporation is just a group of humans. Why wouldn't it have
Lobian ability?
Dumb machines can be made of people. This is achieved by having very
narrow person-system interfaces. Consider the cliché of factory
workers doing a repetitive gesture the entire day.
Corporations are more complex, because they are made of humans with
varied levels of agency. I wonder if they are Löbian or not, but I
don't think it's clear either way.
There is no reason a group of löbian machines will be Löbian itself,
nor what that could mean without further precisions.
If a corporation is a person, we need the mean to send the corporation
to jail after some judgement. Usually corporation are good to dilute
responsibility.
Bruno
Telmo.
Brent
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