On Monday, November 17, 2014 11:49:06 AM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote:
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> On 16 Nov 2014, at 20:32, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List wrote:
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> Interesting speculative physics… that makes claims that parallel worlds 
> may be testable.
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> “A new theory, proposed by Howard Wiseman, Director of the Centre of 
> Quantum Dynamics at Griffith University, is different. No new universes are 
> ever created. Instead many worlds have existed, side-by-side, since the 
> beginning of time. “
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> Well, to be sure, this is how Deutsch interprets Everett. Me too, even for 
> computationalism, where I sum up this by the Y = II rule. The mutiplication 
> (Y)  in the future duplicate the past (Y becomes II). 
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I once asked you if you shared Deutsch's interpretation of the MWI in terms 
of fungible worlds divergent by decoherance, but otherwise invariant in all 
dimensions a frozen structure, every thing that ever has, and ever 
will, ever can occur, frozen in little multidimensional capsule. 

You said you didn't, you saw it differently. I forget precisely what and 
how. Have you changed your mind at a point between? What was the crucial 
shift that fundamentally changed the picture for you? 

Perhaps you are now closely enough aligned with him that you will answer 
the question that he will not despite many times my asking. 

Deutsch explains in BoI chapter "The Reality of Abstractions" that 
abstractions have physical reality independent of dependence of emergent 
features from underlying, increasingly physical layers

So, given independence, that is causal isolation, what is the physical 
mechanism by which decoherence at the quantum level, will trigger 
divergence, and divergence will replicate abstract layers that are 
independent of quantum forces? 

How does that happen? And if it doesn't happen precisely every single time, 
how can macroscopic reality be stable? Cause and effect would never endure

Second challenge: If the two slit experiment is explained by divergent 
universes, then the pattern we see in the interval of 'collapse' is 
therefore the momentary isolation of just this universe as all the others 
diverge. 

Which means it should be distinctive in its own right, from what we shall 
see as the pattern in 'one slit' experiment. 
Is it? I shall bet it is indistinguishable. 

Then, is the one slit experiment isolating this universe in some way? 

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