On 09 Dec 2014, at 15:36, Richard Ruquist wrote:


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From: richard ruquist <yann...@yahoo.com>
Date: Tue, Dec 9, 2014 at 9:26 AM
Subject: Consciousness
To: Swines <swi...@yahoogroups.com>, "achristianvsatheistc...@yahoogroups.com " <achristianvsatheistc...@yahoogroups.com>, Richard Ruquist <yann...@gmail.com >


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yosn_GHYiR4&feature=youtu.be

An hour long discussion of the scientific findings of the U of Virginia that consciousness can exist outside of the brain.

That should be obvious for a computationalist.

The case described are of some interest, but the use of consciousness in QM has been refuted by Abner Shimony, and there is some big lack of rigor in the comment the guy does for the experiments it describes.

It illustrates (like the Movie graph argument but less rigorously, I would say) that the choice is between adding "magic" to the aristotelian frame, or ... abandoning the aristotelian frame.

Bruno





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