On 11 Dec 2014, at 03:53, spudboy100 via Everything List wrote:



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Perhaps unrelated, is a young theoretical physicist at the university of antwerp, named van der veeken, who under his nom de guerre, went by the name of athene, for the video on youtube, afterlife dysfunction. I wonder if professor Marchal has heard of him? I have viewed this video before, but tomorrow, after the ale fades (porter) I will review this video. It might contribute to this exchange of views.

http://m.youtube.com/?#/watch?v=aXZOhqbQsOw


OK. I saw it. The images are nice, but it makes me nervous when he say that "we know ...". We have only theories. He says different things which are compatible with computationalism, but he recasted it in the aristotelian frame, making it inconsistent. But its conclusion about after life coming from a statistics on infinities of states is basically correct, yet very fuzzy, and the video only scratches the problem. The title is a bit deceiving, and it looks like an advertising. The special effects are well done, though. Not sure he could convince people on this list, except those grasping already the non-triviality of the mind-body problem.

Bruno



Mitch



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Subject: Re: Consciousness


On 12/10/2014 2:00 PM, LizR wrote:
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> So, with all due respect, I would like to know if there are peer- reviewed papers by > experts in the relevant fields, which also make these claims? The IQ 130 student, who is > presumably still around to be studied, might be a good place to start. If she really is > what is being claimed that would seem to be very strong evidence that high-functioning > consciousness can exist in a much reduced brain, and maybe even without one.

Google can't find her.

Brent

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