-----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Samiya Illias Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 9:03 PM
Hey guys, this is a solemn decision which John Clark has taken for himself. Please be nice! Samiya So... then, if someone was about to say jump off of a bridge, believing that they would be fine because (for the sake of discussion) they believed they could fly.. one should, in this case as well, respect their solemn decision? Or would it be better to try to talk them down from this misguided belief of theirs that they somehow possessed this ability to fly? -Chris > On 19-Dec-2014, at 9:34 am, "'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List" > <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Russell > Standish > Sent: Thursday, December 18, 2014 7:39 PM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: I signed up to be cryogenically frozen > >> On Thu, Dec 18, 2014 at 02:27:46PM -0800, meekerdb wrote: >> >> Have you considered that if Bruno is right and there's quantum >> immortality then there will a duplicate John K. Clark. >> >> Brent > > More likely, John Clark will wake up having been resucitated from a thawed > brain, rather than some other improbable event, and be $80,000 the lighter > for it. > > Water expands when it freezes; I do not see how the trillions of ruptured > cells (from the micro-shards of ice) constituting the resulting thawed mush > of what once had been a functioning system with trillions of parts can be put > back together. Until a method of preserving the exquisite micro (and possibly > also nano-scale) structures of the brain are developed freezing an organ > destroys it. Certain species can freeze and thaw back out and be fine, but > they have evolved blood containing anti-freeze in it (which is highly toxic > to humans by the way). I am sure DARPA or some such funding agency must be > looking at this for humans. > Cryogenic preservation must begin with figuring out how to bring the > temperature of the preserved tissue down to cryogenic temperatures without so > totally destroying the organ (or entire body) that it becomes a case of > Humpty Dumpty fell off a wall... > In the case of John Clark's brain... he won't care that the > information encoded in his brain has just been destroyed by the > process -- he paid 80 grand for -- meant to preserve it... because he > will have died (and won't miss that 80 grand either I guess) -Chris > > > In either case, duplicated John Clarks will still be rare... > > -- > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) > Principal, High Performance Coders > Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] > University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au > > Latest project: The Amoeba's Secret > (http://www.hpcoders.com.au/AmoebasSecret.html) > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > ------ > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
