On 31 Dec 2014, at 17:42, John Clark wrote:
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
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One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
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I have been a member of the Extropian List for many years and at the
beginning of the year it is my habit to send a message to that list
about
the paranormal and psi. Sense the subject of Rupert Sheldrake and
other forms of infantile junk science has come up here I thought I'd
send it to this list also. One year from now I intend to send this
same
message yet again.
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One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
One year ago I sent the following post to the list, I did not change
one
word. One year from now I intend to send this same message yet again.
================
Happy New Year all.
I predict that a paper reporting positive psi results will NOT
appear in
Nature or Science in the next year. This may seem an outrageous
prediction, after all psi is hardly a rare phenomena, millions of
people with no training have managed to observe it, or claim they
have.
And I am sure the good people at Nature and Science would want to
say something about this very important and obvious part of our
natural
world if they could, but I predict they will be unable to find
anything
interesting to say about it.
You might think my prediction is crazy, like saying a waitress with an
eight's grade education in Duluth Minnesota can regularly observe the
Higgs boson with no difficulty but the highly trained Physicists at
CERN
in Switzerland cannot. Nevertheless I am confident my prediction is
true
because my ghostly spirit guide Mohammad Duntoldme spoke to me
about it in a dream.
PS: I am also confident I can make this very same prediction one
year from
today.
It cannot happen, because if it happens you will say that it is no
more "parapsy". A bit like when you say that intelligence is when it
is done by human, and is no more when done by machine (which makes the
prediction of intelligent machine virtually senseless).
An example of this is given by lucid dreaming. This was discovered and
studied by mystic tibetan, hinduists, and well discussed by modern
paraphychologist, and eventually confirmed experimentally by a
parpsychologist (Hearne). Of course the scientific community has
always throw this in the bag of the crackpotery ... until it has been
rediscovered by LaBerge, who, thanks to his academic label, and thanks
to the open mind of people like Jouvet and mostly Dement (who wrote
papers on this) this belongs now to the mainstream brain and dream
physiology.
Another case might be non-locality; predicted by numerous student in
telepathy, and eventually proved to exist at least in the frame of
single universe.(I dont believe in it, but that is besides the point:
people believing in an unique universe have to believe it, and that
makes your prediction wrong. Well perhaps you did not do that
prediction for enough time).
Hmm... I predict that you will not move to the step 4 of the UDA(*)
this year, making you the less rational person in this list, if not in
the world (I met people having real difficulties of understanding, but
rarerly at that step, and then they have genuine argument, leading to
genuine discussion and genuine critics).
Also you seem to believe in 3p indeterminacy and spooky action at a
distance, without any proof, just repeating what believers in single
universe claims, and this despite you are open minded for the many-
worlds, which does not help to believe that you are rational.
I am not astonished. Only the pseudo-religious people can't doubt
their own conviction, and use mockery as "argument". I think you are
bigot atheists, incapable of agnosticism, even the methodological one.
Bruno
(*) UDA = Universal Dovetailer Argument, in case you forgot.
John K Clark
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