On Thu, Jan 1, 2015  Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

> It cannot happen, because if it happens you will say that it is no more
> "parapsy".
>

I most certainly will not say that! I'm not talking about finding evidence
to explain how the paranormal works I'm talking about something more basic,
finding evidence that there is something that needs explaining. So in that
spirit let me offer you a little bet, if Science or Nature or Physical
Review Letters reports evidence that telepathy or telekinesis or
clairvoyance or remote-viewing exists before January 1 2016, and I don't
care if they have a explanation for why this strange physical phenomenon
exists or not, I will give you $1000,  if they don't print anything like
that you only have to give me $100. Come on it's easy money, OK maybe
scientists aren't as smart as Joe Blow the bartender who does
parapsychology research in his spare time but their bound to catch on
eventually that it's real and I'm giving you 10 to 1 odds, so put your
money where your mouth is.  So do we have a bet?

> A bit like when you say that intelligence is when it is done by human,
> and is no more when done by machine (which makes the prediction of
> intelligent machine virtually senseless.
>

I don't say that, the anti-AI/human-apologists do.


> > Well perhaps you did not do that prediction for enough time).
>

Exactly 2 years ago somebody on this list said almost exactly the same
thing, this is what I said back then:

"Nothing gets their [physicists] blood moving like a experimental result
they can't explain. If psi was real physicists would love it, if psi was
real it would have been proven to everybody's satisfaction in the 17th
century,  if psi was real high school kids would be repeating the 300 year
old experiments in their science fair projects, if psi was real I
personally would love it too, in fact it's hard to imagine anyone not
loving something as cool as psi. But unfortunately psi is not real. [...]
you don't need a 10 billion dollar particle accelerator to investigate this
stuff, if these simple easy experiments were valid then today the
paranormal would not be controversial because its existence would have been
proven to everyone's satisfaction way back in the time of Newton if not
earlier."


> > Hmm... I predict that you will not move to the step 4 of the UDA(*)
>

>
 (*) UDA = Universal Dovetailer Argument, in case you forgot.
>

Thank you I had forgotten, I was about to ask if the Universal Dance
Association said that step 4 was a pirouette or a sissonne.


> > I am not astonished. Only the pseudo-religious people can't doubt their
> own conviction
>

 Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard
that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12.

> I think you are bigot atheists
>

And happy new year to you too.

  John K Clark

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