> > > I believe the wise way to evaluate whether something is funny or not; > whether it is satire or just a slur is to see how members of target feel > when exposed to it.
I believe a better way to determine if something is funny or not is to record in your lab notebook if you laughed or not, and when I first heard that 17 cartoonists were murdered I did not laugh. John K Clark On Tue, Jan 13, 2015 at 2:06 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > ------------------------------ > *From:* LizR <lizj...@gmail.com> > *To:* everything-list@googlegroups.com > *Sent:* Monday, January 12, 2015 1:54 PM > *Subject:* Re: Why is there something rather than nothing? From quantum > theory to dialectics? > > On 12 January 2015 at 14:46, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > > I believe the wise way to evaluate whether something is funny or not; > whether it is satire or just a slur is to see how members of target feel > when exposed to it. If a person of color feels insulted by some cartoon, a > white person does not have the right to say that it’s just all in his head > and that only a fool would see it in any other way. > > > Wise words. Someone who insults someone else then expects them to laugh at > themselves is known as a playground bully, pure and simple. > > > Seeing the imagery of those cartoons I really don’t think that anyone > would be able to find a lot of French of Arab or African descent laughing > along with the “ironic intent”; rather more likely that they would feel > humiliated, insulted, and certainly **unwelcome** > > > I certainly felt a bit queasy from the two supplied, but I don't consider > myself able to judge, especially with my very limited French. > > > By that metric, by the metric of the effect those cartoons had on the > targets of its “irony” the merit and intent of that published work should > be judged. Perhaps this is a uniquely American view and sensitivity not > shared in Europe, but it is a necessary behavior in order for any > multicultural/multi-racial/multi-sectarian/multi-ethnic society to work. > > > >>Certainly not uniquely American. Indeed America has a reputation of > being culturally insensitive, of thinking that its own viewpoint is the > only right one. Not all Americans of course but that's the impression one > gets from outside, from simple things like Bill Gates pretending that there > is a difference between "UK English" and "New Zealand English" to invading > countries to "enforce democracy" it's all cultural imperialism to the > non-American. > > Point taken. The USA is a boorish super power that throws its weight > around the world stage -- just as other dominant powers have done during > their heyday. And yeah there is a grain of truth in the stereotype of the > Ugly American. > > > > > > What happened to the Golden Rule? > > It got left in the Golden Age? No, seriously, I don't know what you mean > here, is this a do unto others thing? > > Yes.... it helps us be, at least a little, human to each other. > -Chris > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
