On 16 Jan 2015, at 5:05 pm, Samiya Illias <[email protected]> wrote:

>> Like Russell, I tend to feel (or believe, if you prefer) that this One or 
>> what the physicalists call "the beginning" also includes observers. I can 
>> conceive of the possibility that observers were present right from the start,
> 
> Can you kindly elaborate on the above statement? It reads similar to 
> something I've been wondering about but haven't been able to understand. 
> Samiya 

"Observers" clearly implies "conscious observers" so what this means is 
consciousness of some order has been present all along. Since the really real 
part of reality happens outside or beyond time anyway (assuming Bruno's comp) 
there is no need in principle for a beginning or an end to anything. OK, there 
may have been a Big Bang but I choose to believe that this was not the 
beginning.

In Russell's Theory of Nothing he says that the informational content of the 
universe was entirely present at whatever juncture we call the BB. This is the 
Everything (principle). That means what it implies: EVERYTHING was present at 
some juncture we choose to call "the beginning" and for some equally mysterious 
reason, forms the point  from which we choose to measure our own conscious 
experience, merely because we cannot conceive of what came before (Russell 
doesn't say that part, that's me but he may agree.)

By definition, "everything" has to include consciousness. Now that's pretty 
much all there is to it. 

Kim

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