On 19 January 2015 at 14:01, David Nyman <[email protected]> wrote:

But if zombies were *logically* impossible, as I believe Dennett for
> example claims, then it would be analytically true, not a contingent fact.


I'd like to amplify here a little in light of my longer response to you
about comp and the Hard Problem. Dennett's public and oft-repeated position
is that physics has primacy over (for example) computation or logic. In
other words, he believes that before something can be deemed computational
or logical, it must first be physical. My point is that, given this prior
commitment, he actually has no basis for any claim that zombies are
*logically* impossible unless they are first *physically* impossible.

However, the fact is (as notoriously argued by Chalmers, for example) that
we have precisely zero evidence that zombies are physically impossible. In
point of fact they would appear to be physically *inevitable*, given that
the system of physical relation appears (very convincingly) to be both
causally sufficient and causally closed. The conjunction of this
inconvenient fact with a prior commitment to physical naturalism often
seems to result in a kind of cognitive dissonance. In Dennett's case this
leads to a denial that consciousness can be distinguished from our
'judgements' about it (i.e. it is an 'illusion') which is superficially at
least consistent, though ultimately self-defeating. Smolin's unwillingness
to deny consciousness, by contrast, pushes him into frank inconsistency.

We need something better than either of these positions.

David

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