On 1/22/2015 7:45 AM, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

2015-01-22 16:37 GMT+01:00 Bruno Marchal <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>>:


    On 21 Jan 2015, at 19:46, Quentin Anciaux wrote:

    In the end... if you cannot doubt god because of the way you define it... 
then not
    only you're not atheist (seems obvious)... but you're not agnostic either, 
you're
    what is called a believer...

    No problem with this. Actually, it is because I am a believer that I am not 
afraid
    of the use of reason, free speech, critical thinking, ... in theology, and 
it is
    because I am a believer that I am really shocked by the way the humans 
misuse the
    natural animal's faith in some reality.


    Lao-tseu is totally right on this. The wise stay mute. Only the non 
believer can
    asserts answers.


Well, you said before it was the agnostic that were wise... but now that you're not agnostic... it's the believer... seems more and more word playing.

And believer like non-believer asserts things... and clearly you cannot doubt god because you want to use the god word, so god == anything that will let you use the word... so you're not agnostic and you assert thing and therefore not wise... there must be a logical flow in this... (I think it's god...).

It's a kind of fixed point of theology. :-)

Brent

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