On 23 Jan 2015, at 00:09, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/22/2015 8:15 AM, Bruno Marchal wrote:

On 22 Jan 2015, at 02:00, meekerdb wrote:

On 1/21/2015 3:46 PM, LizR wrote:
On 18 January 2015 at 18:27, Jason Resch <[email protected]> wrote:

Do you believe that one and only one of the following statements is true?

the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 0
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 1
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 2
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 3
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 4
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 5
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 6
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 7
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 8
the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 9

Either you answer yes, or no to that question. If you answer yes, I don't see how you can escape mathematical realism.

Confusing "real" and "true" again.

Only because you define real by physically real.

Not necessarily. I could also define it as including all conscious experience.

It is like saying only the "Exists" in the qZ1* logic is the correct one. That introduces a mystery at the place where there is a solution.

Bruno







Brent


If not you play with the word, as the proposition "10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi is 9" is an arithmetical proposition, say P(9), and it entails logically that ExP(x), that is there is a number, 9, which is the 10^(10^(10^100))th decimal digit of pi.

But you have never told us what real means to you, so we can't be sure about what you are saying here. It looks like hand-waving to me, just to refuse a precise TOE, the only one which says something testable on the mind-body problem (as far as I know).

Bruno



Brent

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