On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:07 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> I like your use of the word calumny. An endless clash of civilization? > Naw! But we do need to defend ourselves against the jihadi, and be able to > retaliate, Piling more revenge killing on top of the pyramid of violence is your solution? Of course it is reasonable that we defend ourselves in extraordinary situation, but when the state-of-exception becomes the norm, we have a problem, if we value rule of law. Minimizing harm, furthering economic, political, educational developments that diminish the capacity of parts of the world to become breeding grounds for radicalism is more effective than the exclusive short term fix of merely retaliating. > which is something you are totally against and have stated this, > repeatedly. You are not anti-war, merely anti-US wars. I am anti-war, no matter the war, still believe in self-defense and make up my own mind as to its efficacy, as merely "retaliation as principle", doesn't convince me as much as it seems to convince you. > If you were a true pacifist, you would logically be anti-war, across the > board. You are not against Islamist attacks in the west, because you > believe they are justified. > This is where you cross the line comrade. Your true war is against middle > America. Your true war is against middle earth with all its liberals. > As for solutions, you ain't interested, to put it mildly. We have ample supply of your "solutions" on the list and as German, I am automatically skeptical of people offering blanket solutions and generalizations. There are always those kinds of people and always the kinds of people that follow them. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:14 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote: > Well, like I mentioned earlier, you always gripe about any US military > action, and say nothing about other nations, and groups, agressions. This > means, like the old Vietnam protestors, you were against the Vietnam war > (making Breshnev smile) but these self same people had zero to say or do, > regarding the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia. Or, more currently, nothing to say > about Islamic wars and aggressions. So, this incongruence doesn't wash. > This is picking sides, which is something I openly do, and you don't like. > This is know as "life." > Oh, you mean like you complaining about your powerlessness and then doing nothing about the situation that you feel you must rail against? Picking sides and doing nothing about it other than posting obsessively? I'm not sure, "Life" is perhaps a bit more than this. On Mon, Jan 26, 2015 at 12:19 PM, spudboy100 via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote: Yeah, yeah, we can both agree the French and British sucked. If you want to > make them accurately, uncomfortable, mention the Belgian rubber empire in > the 19th century. Their king, a labor reformer at home, over saw the murder > of maybe 8 million people over 20 years, on rubber plantations. Human > history is replete with slaughter. Now that things are a bit more > civilized, it'd be a tragedy for the west to lose out to Islamist > savages-which is what they are, just like we were, not so long ago. You were savage once that you now condemn? Were you a noble savage or more straightforward one? We have people of all these nationalities and of different faiths on this list. If you have a problem with that, take it up with them instead of creepily promising solutions. PGC -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
