On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 5:28 PM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List < [email protected]> wrote:
> > ------------------------------ > *From:* Jason Resch <[email protected]> > *To:* Everything List <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, January 29, 2015 1:05 PM > *Subject:* Re: The TPP > > People worry that one day machines will take over, and we will > become subservient slaves to their ends, that they will set the rules, > control the government, and be above the law. > > >>We no longer need to fear that day because it already happened, quite > some time ago. These machines are corporations: self-sustaining, evolving > (in a Darwinian sense), hyper-intelligent, extremely-knowledgeable, > immortal, transnational, entities which see and utilize humans as mere cogs > in their own machinery. They are independently intelligent entities which > we humans think we control, but we no more control them than any cell in > our body controls our own personal actions. > > But in practice corporations often do not behave intelligently by even the > most forgiving definition of intelligent behavior > No human has anywhere near the knowledge, experience, expertise or competence to create an ipod. It takes an entity with the collective knowledge of many thousands, if not millions of years of experience, with the cumulative intelligence of all its individual employees subject-specific field expertise. They may operate more slowly than individual humans, and thus appear stupid, but a human would also appeared stupid when its behavior is analyzed on the timescales of its individual neurons. > -- corporations may have been accorded a pseudo eternal existence as legal > entities (in some countries such as the US), but in practice they act as > amplification engines for the edicts, desires and whims of the corporate > officers. > Should any of those corporate officers substantially deviate as to threaten the survival of the corporation, the corporation will either removal that officer as a surgeon would remove a cancerous tumor, or it will die and leave more strongly self-preserving corporations to inherit its business. > We humans -- or most of us at least -- may have been demoted to being > considered and treated as fungible "resources", but the corporation does > not exist independently of the humans (e.g. the officers, the boards, the > shareholders) controlling it. > Neither does the brain exist independently of its component neurons, but my point is that the will of the corporation is something greater than the sum of the parts of the will of its individual employees and owners. It has its own will, goals, desires, survival instinct, motivations, etc. which are distinct from those of any one of its officers. Could Segey Brin and Larray Page wake up one day and decide to shutdown Google and succeed in doing so? I would find such a scenario unlikely to succeed in practice even if they were in their legal rights to do so. Even if they did succeed in closing the doors, a Google2, composed of Google's former employees, would quickly spring up. Jason -Chris > > Jason > > > > On Thu, Jan 29, 2015 at 11:44 AM, 'Chris de Morsella' via Everything List > <[email protected]> wrote: > > Transnational corporate globalism, has not turned out to be all that good > for freedom, quality of human life or the environment; it has however been > great for the quarterly bottom line… and profit is the only value that > seems valued these days. > -Chris > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [email protected]] *On Behalf Of *LizR > > > https://action.sumofus.org/a/tpp-final-talks/?akid=9154.7664677.NhaQ0s&ask=1&rd=1&sub=fwd&t=2 > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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