Hi John

As I mentioned before, empty space isn't the same as nothing. It already
presupposes the laws of physics, even if it doesn't do much with them
they're there. What we're discussing is where the laws of physics
themselves come from (and perhaps things they appear to rely on, like
maths).

It's possible that space is fundamental, and there simply is no deeper
explanation for its existence. (And if so maybe the same is true of
matter/energy/time too). But we're speculating that that ain't necessarily
so.

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