On 12 February 2015 at 08:09, John Ross <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Liz,
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> Good to hear from you again.
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> Empty space *is *the same as nothing.
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I would say far from it. Why should empty space exist? The questions "why
is there something rather than nothing?" "Why does the universe go to the
bother of existing?" "What breathes the fire into the equations?" etc are
asking why *anything* exists. Pushing the chain of explanation back to
asking "Why did empty space exist?" (assuming that is in fact how the
universe started) is a step in the right direction, but it isn't a final
explanation.

I don’t understand your comment, “It presupposes the laws of physics.”  I
> don’t think empty space presupposes the laws of physics and I don’t think
> “nothing” presupposes the laws of physics.  In my mind neither one
> presupposes anything.
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Maybe if the empty space does nothing, ever, that might be the case. But if
anything ever arises from the empty space, then the LOP were implicitly
there, because they govern what appears.

So if your description is correct the question has been reduced to "why
should empty space plus the laws of physics exist?" That's progress towards
a TOE, but it hasn't hit bedrock yet IMHO.

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