On 3/15/2015 6:15 PM, John Clark wrote:
On Sun, Mar 15, 2015  meekerdb <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote

    > consciousness may be an necessary spandrel of brain architecture, but NOT 
of
    intelligence in general.


The same drugs that make me behave stupidly also makes me feel less conscious, and that fact is incompatible with the above idea.

No it's not. You assume that intelligence only comes from brains. It is true that drugs that make brains less intelligent make them less conscious. But it might not be true of, for example Watson, because Watson's intelligence depends on accessing an huge database (the web). If you cut off its access it would be much less intelligent, but it would be like a scholar whose library was taken away. The scholar is not less conscious - at least in the usual understanding of "conscious". As you often say, and I think correctly, consciousness is easy, intelligence is hard; which implies that they are not necessarily linked.

Brent

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