On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 Telmo Menezes <[email protected]> wrote: >>> Humans apply pressure on the floor when standing up, so Evolution is >>> responsible for mass and gravity? >>> >> >> >> No, but Evolution is responsible for the fact that humans can stand >> up, or that humans can do anything at all for that matter >> > > > So evolution is responsible for the fact that organisms apply pressure > on surfaces? >
Yes, but you could have figured that out by yourself. > >>> The assumptions that consciousness is something organisms do, >>> >> >> >> That is not an assumption that is a matter of direct experience and >> thus needs no proof; I am a organism and I am conscious. >> > > > But do you generate it? > I think you're getting silly. > > Is it something you do? > I think you're getting very silly. > >>> that conscious is a byproduct of something >>> >> >> >> If Darwin was correct then the above must be true. And I think Darwin >> was correct. >> > > > That doesn't follow unless you can show that consciousness is something > organisms generate. > I think you're getting very very silly. > You're avoiding the question. That's because I don't know what the question is. > > that consciousness is generated somehow, >>> >> >> >> When I'm asleep >> > > > This is trivially false. We are conscious while dreaming. > We don't always dream when sleeping in fact we usually don't, we only dream during REM sleep and that only happens for about one hour per night. >> or under anesthesia I'm not conscious >> > > > You can't prove that. > True, but I've got something far far better than a proof to convince me that it's true, direct experience. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

