On 16 Mar 2015, at 15:33, Bruno Marchal wrote:


On 12 Mar 2015, at 02:07, meekerdb wrote:

An excellent talk by Sean Carroll explicating where the gaps are in Everett's MWI as applied to cosmology and providing a solution to the Boltzmann brain problem:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5TFy6Ben0Ho

Note that toward the end he seems to require a conscious observer to bottom out the epistemology, i.e. to have a measurement actually made. Be sure to listen to the Q&A too. Coincidentally, I came across Lubos Motul's discussion of MWI in which he has an extended argument with Ron Maimon. I don't like Lubos's politics or his style or argument which is arrogant and bombastic. In this case he is being very critical of Sean Carroll whom is a very nice guy and I do like - but I think Lubos makes some fair points.

Interesting. Note that qZ1* is very plausibly more on the side of infinite Hilbert Spaces, at least formally, and this would mean the universal machine would choose the second option, leading to Boltzmann brain problems in the comp solution of the mind-body problem.

Nevertheless, we have to derive the very equation of physics from the "Boltzmann brain" that exists in arithmetic, which is assumed by Carroll (except it use the aristotelian picture to very quickly put the problem under the rug, almost namely).

It is nice that physicists see the inflation of experiences/brains problem in physics. It can help them to become aware of the mind- body problem, and better appreciate that such problem is already there in arithmetic, even without Universe.


In fact it is interesting that Sean Carroll comes up with the same alternative of the UDA 1-7 reasoning: where the choice is between a physicalist ultrafinitism (a finite universe) and a an infinite universe, with a Boltzman brain problem.

But then the step 8 makes or should make the computationalist abandoning the ultrafinitist and materialist assumption: it does not solve the problem. We have no choice other than solving the arithmetical "Boltzman Brain Problem" in arithmetic.

To be sure, I have to meditate more on some of Sean Carroll saying about how to interpret stationary states in quantum mechanics, too.

Bruno





Bruno



Brent

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