On 22 Mar 2015, at 03:40, John Clark wrote:



On Sat, Mar 21, 2015 at 10:23 PM, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:

> John appears to just not want to think about it, he's sure it's wrong and he refuses to contemplate the possibility that he's wrong,

Just give me some reason the think it might not be worthless, but for the last 3 years nobody has been able to give me one.

> even though he's the only person who thinks he has a good argument

I may be the only person on this list who thinks Bruno is wrong, but I'm not the only person who thinks Bruno is wrong.

Who? (Jean-Paul Delahaye? Bill Taylor? Invite them to present themselves an argument, because if it is a valid argument, you have not yet succeeded to present it here).

The only radical thing here, is that we work in the scientific way, in a domain usually handled by people running on personal conviction. Scientific means, presented successfully in the academic domain, that is verified by enough patient honest peers. Here it asks for a lot, as the subject is interdisciplinary. It takes time also to be understood by many, as it is easy to make someone foolish in the interdisciplinary, given that few people handled the scientific attitude in more than one field.

Very often, when people claims they have seen a mistake, when pushed, they eventually shows that they added some metaphysics not present in the theory. The confusion is normal, as I have tackled something usually treated in the literary philosophical prose (which I respect, but not to refute an argument in science).

As Liz or Telmo recalled, you have shown to us that sometimes you did understood the step 3, so just move to step 4, or, at the least, stop pretend to have found a mistake, as it begins to look like simple defamation.

Scientists are modest, and here the fact that nobody understand what you say, despite the unbounded patience we have manifested, should make you less straight and more cautious on anything in this subject.

Bruno



  John K Clark


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