Hi Kim,

On Thu, Mar 26, 2015 at 7:47 AM, Kim Jones <[email protected]> wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2015, at 2:21 pm, LizR <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> http://www.raqqa-sl.com/en/?p=857
>
>
> So most of these women are Brits? WTF! Makes your blood run cold. People
> are turning into zombies left right and centre. There is absolutely nothing
> whatsoever in organised religion for women. This whole conflict is a boys'
> club tribal thing. Women are necessary to the tribe because a good metric
> of any tribe's success is the number of willing female participants. Just
> ask Ghengis Kahn. Just ask the Christians; they have women dress in
> form-obscuring vetements as well; they are called "nuns" and presumably
> they lie around all day having erotic fantasies about being loved
> conveniently by Jesus without all the messy boy stuff that goes with sex.
>

I think this model of men as exploiters and women as victims is too
simplistic. If only it were that simple.

I've been trying to understand the horror of ISIS, and more specifically
what could lead women living in the west to join the movement. One of the
dynamics that seems to emerge from analyzing recruitment strategies and
interviewing people that defect the movement is this: hard as it may be to
believe, the jihadist fighter archetype seems to be a powerful sex symbol
for certain women. Many women are victims in this situation, but so are
many man. And other women collaborate in the vicitimization and are
responsible for encouraging men to become jihadist fighters.

The psyche of both women and men is not as simple as mainstream culture
likes to paint it. Why do you think 50 shades of grey was so popular?

When the Romans first met Germanic tribes, they were surprised to see women
in the back with spears, ready to kill any man who tried to defect from the
front lines.

Men and women are physiologically different, which makes them more
naturally fit for different tasks, and men make better warriors. But
biology has a more unified plan, and everyone conforms to the plans of
biology through instinct. I think that blaming one of the genders is
missing the point. The characteristics of a gender have been evolved by
millions of years of selection, and women preferences play a role in this
selection process.

Many people (notably feminists) complain about the "alpha-male" sociopathic
douchebag ruining society for everyone. But then, if you investigate
further, this archetype has a lot of success with women.

It is our biology itself that we have to transcend -- the parts of the
program that no longer serve us, and evolution is too slow. It's not going
to be an easy path. We are still sophisticated monkeys, both men and women.
I put more faith in the transformative power of technology than in
political change.


>
> But I do think by now that that slew of apocalyptic zombie movies that the
> world passed through recently was some kind of cultural dream or
> clairvoyant nightmare about this ISIS-led zombie apocalypse we now appear
> to be heading for. You like that? "Beheading for"......
>

This is an interesting point. The first wave of zombie movies was more a
criticism of consumerism: showing the horror of going to the mall and
seeing your fellow humans in a weird trance of buying irrelevant stuff and
not caring about anything else.

I think the second wave became very popular with a recent break in trust in
the political systems of the west. It's not that average citizens don't
trust the government, it's that they can't even make sense of what's going
on, or if someone is really in charge. This leads to a fear that things
could be out of control, and that social contracts could collapse at any
moment. This is also what leads to the popularity of cartoonish ideas like
the Illuminati -- an attempt to make sense of the hyper-complex
almost-out-of-control, 7 billion people society with a simple narrative.

Telmo.


>
> We had one young bloke here in Oz, disappeared recently to Syria to fight
> with IS. Anglo. Good kid with high "intelligence" apparently. Got hooked by
> the jihad thing. His mates said he had a chip on his shoulder and had
> "turned weird". What ISIS offering apparently more convincing than life in
> the burbs of Sydney as a molly-coddled youngster in middle class, white
> supremacist Australia. ISIS said "Here comes one! Stick a bomb belt on him
> and send him off to oblivion". Which they did; he detonated it and managed
> to blow up an empty car and himself. Can you be a failure as a Jihadi? This
> kid was.
>
>
> Kim
>
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