How about this? MWI, if true, refutes the no-clonning conundrum.
-----Original Message----- From: LizR <[email protected]> To: everything-list <[email protected]> Sent: Thu, Apr 23, 2015 5:39 pm Subject: Re: Practicalities of Mind Uploading On 24 April 2015 at 06:39, spudboy100 via Everything List <[email protected]> wrote: My sense of things is that if it's not your identity who's is it then? Pattern identity sorts it out. If it looks like you, and it thinks like you, has your attitudes, opinions, belief's, prejudices, likes, dislikes, feels like you, feels like your own tongue in your own mouth...that's you. The question is whether the you who was a biological entity experiences waking up as the uploaded version. If not, then to quote Larry Niven "I wouldn't rise in the damn thing" (a destructive teleporter, in his case). Tipler claims that is guaranteed if you can duplicate - or, apparently, just simulate - the quantum state of your body (or brain, at least). That is, with no supernatural extras, the laws of physicss (supposedly) guarantee that a duplicated quantum state is indeed you, and you will actually experience waking up as the new version. (Indeed, the MWI also relies on this identity thesis to explain how observers can exist in a branching multiverse - and so does comp, of course.) But there's no-cloning to consider - plus whether a simulated quantum state is the same as a real one... Pattern identity says the body is the soul and identity. Easy, Peasy. If there are a million of you, with that feeling, and they all go off to have a million different experiences, going forward, then hypothetically, you all can meet at the end of time, so to speak, and all join together (Tipler style) into one totally, cosmic Liz. According to Steinhart, uploading is resurrection, or at least one branch of resurrection. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
