On 14 May 2015, at 23:32, John Mikes wrote:
Colin: wouldn't it fit to call "TOE" - Theory of Everything WE
KNOW ABOUT? or: Everything in our reach?
I mentioned my agnostic views.
Everything in our reach would be []p, and its many intensional
variants. You need to bet on the reach, and that there is something to
reach, which you never know.
As far as I can understand Colin, he confuses "& p" and "& <>p".
Consciousness has a relation with both the first person, and the
observers.
By definition, the mystical tries to intuit what is beyond the reach.
He is *that* curious.
Then some theories can give pictures, which can be true or false, and
some can be tested, and if refuted, we can progress, *toward* the
truth beyond the reach.
Bruno
Greetings
John Mikes
On Wed, May 13, 2015 at 8:40 PM, colin hales <col.ha...@gmail.com>
wrote:
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Perhaps better....
All posited (so far) scientific TOE are actually wrongly named. They
would be correctly named:
"Theories predicting how the universe appears to an assumed
scientific observer inside it"
Or maybe
"Theories of everything except the scientific observer"
By Scientific observer I mean consciousness... What scientific
observation uses/is.
From here you might ask yourself what a scientist would be doing if
they _were_ explaining the scientific observer (consciousness). For
whatever that is, it's not a member of the set of the kind of
science outcomes in which these so-called TOE sit, smugly claiming
everything while actually failing without realizing.
Cheers
Colin
From: Bruce Kellett
Sent: 14/05/2015 9:15 AM
To: everything-list@googlegroups.com
Subject: Theories that explain everything explain nothing
As an aside to recent discussions, it is interesting to point out that
physics has some of the problems associated with over-confidence in
ideas coming from pure intuition too.
http://aeon.co/magazine/science/has-cosmology-run-into-a-creative-crisis
This article by Ross Anderson in Aeon Magazine surveys some of the
recent history of press announcements by leading cosmologists.
Believing
too strongly in your own pet theory can be a dangerous pastime.
Bruce
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