On Mon, May 18, 2015 at 05:27:50PM -0700, meekerdb wrote:
> On 5/18/2015 5:20 PM, Stathis Papaioannou wrote:
> >On 19 May 2015 at 07:49, meekerdb <meeke...@verizon.net> wrote:
> >
> >>There is a difference in kind, not degree, between the impossible and the
> >>highly improbable.
> >>
> >>
> >>I disagree.  That's a platonic attitude that we can discriminate between
> >>impossible and highly improbable.  It comes from a reliance on logical, in
> >>which contradictions are "impossible"; but in fact contradictions are
> >>properties of language and what we have thought "impossible" in the past
> >>based on language, we've found to be the case in fact and had to adjust our
> >>language to fit.
> >Can you give an example?
> >
> >
> 
> An object cannot be two places at the same time.
> 
> Bremt
> 

I totally agree with Brent - and have argued this point
before. Supervenience, like emergence, is a type of statistical
question, and is as much in the eye of the beholder as
anything. Whether or not consciousness supervenes on an astronomically
unlikely occurrance is totally moot in any case, and one cannot rely
one's intuition in judging the outcome.

With a nod to William Paley, if one were to stumble across a machine
that acted intelligently and had a consciousness, one would have to assume it
to actually be the result of a consious process rather than the result
of a random accident.

Cheers
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