The point of responding is that if a faith is indeed the word of god, it should have answers to all the major metaphysical and philosophical questions that might be asked of it.
On 13 June 2015 at 16:01, Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear All, > I do not know if I should be responding to any of the posts on this thread > as we seem to just keep repeating ourselves. > I do not understand why those who have decided and declared themselves as > atheists even bother to respond to my posts. I do however wish that those > who consider themselves agnostics do read the scriptures. God willing, they > might find the answers to the questions in their heart. > A word of caution: The Quran itself recommends that every time one studies > the Quran, to first pray for Allah's protection from the Devil who attempts > to misguide those who seek guidance. > Allah repeatedly offers forgiveness guidance throughout the Quran, and the > text also explains why guidance is withheld from whom and why. May the > scriptures enlighten us. Amen. > > Samiya > > > > > On 13-Jun-2015, at 5:46 am, spudboy100 via Everything List < > everything-list@googlegroups.com> wrote: > > Just to put my own dim consciousness into this arena, I did inquire of a > young Pakistani, what he thought was the main motivation behind jihad. I > asked if it was the great reward of being with Allah forever, and the > women, etc. This guy corrected me and indicated, no it was not the great > reward driving the jihad, but, rather, the eternal death in the grave, and > the dual notion of gahannom (gehenim) in a fiery punishment for betraying > Allah's eddicts. I over simplify on all this, but I believe also, that > islamic teachings indicate, that they are Dar es Salaam, the House of > Peace, and that we, the Qfar, or infidels, are the House of War, and that > true peace is never to be offered to the Qfar, on a truce (hudna) can be > offered. > > Thus, peace is never to be attained, as we understand it because those in > the Uma, risk being burned up forever, by defiling Allah and themselves, > with the uncleaness, of the Qfar or traitor, aka Infidel. So there is zero > incentive for being peaceful (unless a temporary truce) with the infidel. > Who wishes eternal damnation upon themselves, and their families and > friends by angering Allah? There is then, no incentive to be offered that > can rival the punishment and reward of Allah. Its a no brainer. It does put > the frame of reverence of behaviors if one recognizes this feature of how > the other fellows feel and think. By their belief system, they would > consider themselves to be insane, and humiliated, by offering anything to > the traitors to God. > > Sent from AOL Mobile Mail > > > -----Original Message----- > From: John Clark <johnkcl...@gmail.com> > To: everything-list <everything-list@googlegroups.com> > Sent: Fri, Jun 12, 2015 08:15 PM > Subject: Re: Quran Audio > > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 Samiya Illias <samiyaill...@gmail.com> wrote: > > >> to keep my reply short (concentrate on Islam) Why should I study > scripts the followers of which behead, flog, stone, dismember live humans > and claim full credit for such cruelty in the afterlife? > > > > briefly (concentrate on science) > > > If you concentrate on science there won't be much to say about Muslims. > > Although Muslims make up 23% of the world's population since 1900 only one > Muslim has won a Nobel Prize in science, Ahmed Zewail won for chemistry in > 1999. Abdus Salam won for physics in 1979 and his tombstone said "First > Muslim Nobel Laureate", but the Pakistani government officially decreed > that Abdus Salam was NOT a Muslim and ordered that the word "Muslim" be > erased from his tombstone. > > > > The same reason why people should study the sciences the followers > (scientists / engineers / technicians / governments / military / > businesses) of which experiment with, damage, kill live humans and animals, > destroy ecosystems, etc. and claim full credit for being leaders of human > civilisation! > > > Science can explain how a H-bomb works but says nothing about how or if > they should be used, that is a function of the empathy of the bomb builder > and his fear of retaliation. Islam can not say one intelligent word about > how a H-bomb works or even how a conventional chemical explosive works, but > that doesn't prevent it from telling people exactly how they should be > used. And Islam says you shouldn't have empathy for those who frequent a > different religious franchise than your do, and it also says that you > shouldn't fear death because if you do what Islam tells you to do then when > you die you'll live forever in Santa Claus's workshop in the sky. So we > have a combination of cruelty and stupidity, and that is a dangerous > combination. . > > > A person's concern for their own future should be reason enough to > urgently explore the scriptures! > > > I don't see how reading the fairy tales of illiterate bronze age tribes > will help, not even if your mommy and daddy said it will. > > John K Clark > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. 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