On 11 Aug 2015, at 19:56, David Nyman wrote:

On 11 August 2015 at 07:09, 'scerir' via Everything List <[email protected] > wrote:
BTW there is an amusing paper by (the manyworlder) Lev Vaidman.
http://arxiv.org/abs/quant-ph/9609006

Nice paper (from a while back). AFAICT his resolution of the indeterminacy issue in MWI is logically identical to Bruno's FPI in the context of computationalism. In other words, in both cases it is an 'illusion of ignorance' attributable to the limitation on information available to each 'copy' of a deterministically proliferated observer. Each copy will inevitably (and subjectively justifiably) identify itself as a continuation of a common 'ancestor'. Each observer will therefore feel justified in making probabilistic predictions based on its *subjective restriction* to an apparently (but, sub specie aeternitatis, illusorilly) singular personal history. According to Vaidman this is essentially what the paper is about.

I'm frankly staggered that this (i.e. the equivalence between the two forms of FPI) can be in the least controversial at this stage.

And is it?

It is ignored, but if it was controversial, I think I would know it.

It is not controversial, it is ignored, and hidden by the usual special interest, like defending personal notoriety etc.

John Clark has illustrated perfectly well the panoply of strategies you need to hide the FPI, by making it looking contreversed, but it is not. Just ignored by pseudo-religious people for pseudo-religious or private interests or both.

It is a bit like the danger of marijuana. It does not exist for any scientists having work on the subject, so its "scientific" relative innocuousness is not controversial. It is controversial only in "media" and "politics".

The use of the FPI in quantum mechanics will work or not, but to work, what I show is that not only we must get the Born rules, but we must get the waves itself too. If not, QM becomes a religion of the gap, and hides the mind-body problem in the (quite persisting then) Aristotelian theological dogma.

Bruno





David





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