Well as people probably know, I don't believe C. elegans can be conscious in any sense of the word. Hell - I have strong doubts about ants, and they're massively more complex creatures.
But it probably won't be long before we simulate a mouse brain in toto - about 2 decades is my guess, maybe even less given enough dollars - then we're definitely in grey philosophical territory :). One intersting test I'd like to see is applying Tononi's integrated information measure to these simple creatures to see if they're producing any integrated information. I suspect Integrated Information is a necessary requirement for conscious, but not so sure about sufficiency. Cheers On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 09:00:14AM +0200, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > On 29 Aug 2015, at 00:43, Jason Resch wrote: > > >I think so. It is at least as conscious as C. Elegans. > > > Assuming that the worm comp substitution level of neuronal > connection is the correct choice. > > Low level animals behavior might rely heavily on smell and other > chemical interaction, and I am not sure what the sensor represents > in the robots represent, as C. Elegans is blind (I think). > > Hard to really conclude it is thinking from the video, and > theoretically, we can't never be sure. It might be a philosophical > worm zombie! > > Bruno > > > > > > >Jason > > > >On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 6:21 PM, meekerdb <[email protected]> > >wrote: > >On 8/28/2015 3:00 PM, Jason wrote: > >https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2_i1NKPzbjM > > > >So what do you think? Is it conscious? > > > >Bremt > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >Groups "Everything List" group. > >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >send an email to [email protected]. > >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > > >-- > >You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > >Groups "Everything List" group. > >To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, > >send an email to [email protected]. > >To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > >For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > http://iridia.ulb.ac.be/~marchal/ > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Prof Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders Visiting Professor of Mathematics [email protected] University of New South Wales http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
