On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 05:08:21PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> On 26/10/2015 5:01 pm, Russell Standish wrote:
> >On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 03:40:45PM +1100, Bruce Kellett wrote:
> >>I think Carroll's Paradox (or 'What the Tortoise Said to Achilles')
> >>effectively undermines computationalism, or any argument that
> >>arithmetic is prior to physics.
> >>
> >>See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/What_the_Tortoise_Said_to_Achilles
> >>
> >>In order to escape the paradox, you have to resort to a formalist
> >>approach, and that renders the formalism devoid of semantic content.
> >>
> >I don't see why that undermines computationalism. Could you please expand?
> 
> Modus ponens is only a formal manipulation of symbols, with no
> semantic content.
> 

Are you trying to say that modus ponens is not valid of reality, hence
computionalism is false (but that's employing modus ponens, so you've
tied yourself up in a knot)?

Or, are you trying to say that computationalism has no semantic
content because it is formal? That argument has already been run by
someone on this list - the trouble is the only semantics required are
internal to the system.

Or something else?

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