On Mon, Oct 26, 2015 at 10:44:28AM -0700, Brent Meeker wrote:
> 
> On 10/26/2015 2:43 AM, Russell Standish wrote:
> 
> >
> >Assuming computationalism, our everyday experience _is_ internal to the
> >system. That doesn't make it any less meaningful.
> 
> I think that's a confusion.  The system is the universe with it's
> physics.   So in a sense everything is internal to it.  But
> experience is individual and it's meaningful because the individual
> has values and memory and so incorporates experiences into decisions
> about future actions...that's what constitutes giving them
> semantics.
> 

Hi Brent, I appreciate your point of view very much, but I fail to see
how what you say is incompatible with my claim. Where is the
confusion?

The only clarification I would make is that (with computationalism)
the system is formal, but the observer (individual in your
terminology) and environment (universe with its physics in your
terminology) are a non formal partition of the system.

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