On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 spudboy100 via Everything List <
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​> ​
> Interesting. Your comments reminds me of the 1948 film based on the
> screenplay by author, Graham Green, for the film, The Third Man. This has
> become known as the Harry Lime Speech, and goes like this: "Oh, don't be so
> glum. Under the Borgias, Italy had assasination, and wars, but produced
> Michaelangelo, Da Vinci, and the Renaissance, and under the Swiss, they had
> 500 years of peace, brotherhood, and democracy, and all it has to show for
> it is the cookoo clock."


​Good movie and a great speech, but.... although ​
Graham Green
​ wrote most of the ​screenplay he didn't write that speech,
Orson Welles
​ himself wrote ​
Harry Lime
​'s​

​s​
peech
​. And I love
Orson Welles
​, but.... the Swiss were known for centuries as skilled mercenary soldiers
willing to fight bravely and skillfully and brutally for whoever paid the
most, and Switzerland also produced Leonhard Euler the most prolific and
one of the best mathematicians of all time, and the Swiss didn't
invent the cuckoo
clock the Germans did.


> ​> ​
> One might similarly say, under the republic, we had slavery, the wars
> against native americans, and the civil war, so maybe the plutocracy is
> better?


​Yes ​
​
plutocracy
​and the free market ​
is better
​. ​
The Noble Savage never existed
​, ​
I have no doubt the history of American aborigines from 16,000 BC to 1492
AD was at least as bloody and unjust as that of the Europeans
​, but at least the Europeans got prosperity from all that blood and
suffering, ​the
native americans
​ were still dirt poor compared with the Spanish in 1492.​ If you're going
to be brutal at least get something out of it.

  John K Clark


>

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