On 03 Jun 2016, at 12:22, 'scerir' via Everything List wrote:

Bruce:
This relates to my current obsession with the universal applicability of Bell's theorem (and other inequalities such as that of CHSH). Consider the statement of the Church-Turing thesis: "the statement that our laws of physics can be simulated to any desired precision by a Turing machine (or at any rate,
by a probabilistic Turing machine)".


To be sure, this has nothing to do with Church thesis. Church thesis is just the thesis that Intuitively Computable = Turing Computable. It does not refer to physical-computable. Intuitively computable means that there is a an algorithm, human sharable, that we can use to compute a function in some finite (but arbitrarlly long) time on each input.



This is not true for Bell-type experiments
on entangled particle pairs. To be more precise, the correlations produced from measurements on entangled pairs at spacelike separations cannot be reproduced
by any computational process. [....]

For this I refer to my post of yesterday. Quantm computer do not violate Church thesis, but do violate the thesis that all universal machine can emulate each other in polynomial time. (time is used here in the computer science theoretical sense, it is not necessarily the physical time).

Bruno


### Unless something strange is going on here. In example, I'm trying to understand something J.Christian wrote recently.. See Appendix D, page 8 and 9
in this paper https://arxiv.org/pdf/1501.03393v6.pdf

BTW L. Accardi, (Accardi and Regoli, 2000, 2001; Accardi, Imafuku and Regoli, 2002) has claimed to have produced a suite of computer programmes, to be run on a network of computers, which will simulate a violation of Bell's inequalites.
See also http://arxiv.org/pdf/1507.00106v3.pdf



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