On 7/06/2016 6:57 pm, Bruno Marchal wrote:
On 07 Jun 2016, at 04:24, Bruce Kellett wrote:

That sounds like you actually do accept the standard concept of non-locality in quantum mechanics! Spacelike separated particles can interfere probabilistically without any possible interactions (mechanistic force-field exchanges) between them: that is precisely what is meant by non-locality in this context.

I think you have been too tied up with a mechanistic interpretation of non-locality -- you appear to think that it necessarily involves FTL exchange of some particle or other mechanistic influence. But this is not necessarily the case -- we don't actually postulate non-local hidden variables of this type because that would represent an attempt to give a "local" account of "non-locality". All that is involved is that the singlet state is a unity, even though the entangled particles might be widely separated. This is reflected in the fact that the wave function itself is intrinsically non-local -- it is local and deterministic only in configuration space, not in 3-dimensional physical space.

You are the one who seem to accept that such a non-locality is not physical, but due to the internal relative FPI. If you agree there is no FTL action in any physical realities, I guess we agree, then.

I have always been clear that no FTL mechanistic disturbance was involved in quantum non-locality. We seems to agree on that. However, "the internal relative FPI" is just a sequence of words that has little meaning in this context. Why not just accept that the observed results come from the standard evolution of the wave function, so the observed non-locality is just a property of the wave function -- no mystery or magical FPI about it at all.

Bruce

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