On Fri, Jun 10, 2016 at 1:24 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> I have read what you said and if you're right and calculations can be >> performed and consciousness produced independently of matter then the >> injection of a particular form of matter into your bloodstream, such as >> cyanide, should have no effect on your consciousness. > > > > > It is a beginners' exercise to find the logical fallacy here. > The logical fallacy is so elementary, so childishly easy to find that you are is unable to say what it is. >> >> The primacy of matter is an entirely different question, > > > > > But that is the point of discussion. > I thought it was "Can calculations be made and conscious produced without the use of matter?" The primacy of matter is an entirely different (and less interesting) question . > > > That is basically where Aristotle's theology departed from Plato's theology > Both were nitwits, to hell with them. You must mention Aristotle and Plato about a thousand times as often as you mention Einstein, and in the 21th century that's just nuts. > > > Consciousness does not originated in matter, > You may not need your brain but I need mine. > > Consciousness is the selection process, but with mechanism, that is > formulable in term of arithmetic and arithmetical semantics, entirely > available from inside. > Why is the molecule H2O needed for this conscious arithmetic to work and why will the molecule H2SO4 stop the arithmetic dead? > > An intelligent machine is a machine which decides one day to change the > user! > At last something we agree on. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

