First I want to say ​Merry Newton​'s birthday!

On Wed, Dec 14, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:

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>>  usage says that "God" means an immortal person with supernatural power
>> who wants, and deserves, to be worshipped.
>
>
> ​> ​
> That's the Christian use
> ​ ​
> . Why do atheists insist so much we use the christian notion,


Well... at least atheists have some notation in mind when they use the word
​.​
It may not exist but at least "an immortal person with supernatural power
who wants and deserves to be worshiped" means something.
​
 Theists, at least most of those on this list, quite literally don't know
what they're talking about when they talk about "God".
​ ​
As near as I can tell to them the word "God"  means an invisible fuzzy
amoral blob that does nothing and knows nothing and thinks about nothing
​ that we can not effect and that does not effect our lives​
. Why even invent a word for a concept as useless as that?


> ​> ​
> god is just the big things at the origin of everything.
>

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And if that turns out to be the quantum vacuum are you prepared to call
that God? Of course you're not! And you can protest all you want but it's
obvious you want something that is conscious and intelligent and
purposeful, not something as mindless as a sack full of doorknobs.


> ​> ​
> read serious theologian or philosophers.


And speaking of a
​
sack full of doorknobs, how can one tell the difference between a serious
theologian and a buffoon theologian?


> ​> ​
> My use of God is close to Einstein one, Spinoza, Leibniz, St-Anselme,
> Gödel, Huxley,


I am going to ask a hypothetical question to try to get a better
understanding of what you're saying. Suppose for the sake of argument
you're wrong and that invisible fuzzy mindless blob did not exist; how
would the universe be one bit different? What could "God" bring to the
table that something that wasn't a invisible fuzzy mindless blob could not?

John K Clark

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