On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >>> from the third person points of view that he can have about himself, or >>> better himselves. >> >> > >> >> No idea what that means, none whatsoever. > > > > > It means that the guy can say to his friend: you can join me at W *and* at > M. he talk about his first person experience from the third person pov. > M y friend can talk about his first person experience from the third person pov ? What does that have to do with me or my duplicate? I still have no idea what you're trying to say , none whatsoever. > > > That definition is already in the papers, and in all posts on this > subject. read the post and memorize the definition. > You make it quite clear that the content of the diary is the definition, but you don't know what it's the definition of. And I will tell you that the ultimate answer is 42 and you should memorize that, but I don't know what the ultimate question is. > > > Both have that memory, and we agreed that both are the H-guy. > The one thing we agree on. > >> >> So why do you keep talking about that stupid diary? > > > > > Because its content is used to track the first person views. > > It works, without any ambiguity. > It only tells about past views, views about a individual that has changed, and changed in a way that is NOT unique. So how on earth could that not lead to ambiguity? > > This is handled very simply, both intuitively. > Intuition is useless in a world with people duplicating machines. > > > W-JC is H-JC and > > M-JC > > is H-JC. Yes. > > > We did agree that W-JC is NOT M-JC. Yes. > > > That's why there is an 1p-indeterminacy. Huh? What exactly is indeterminate about that? > > > You just cannot be, with that protocol, feeling seeing the two cities at > once. > You you you. Bruno Marchal would be lost without good old Mr.You! > > the pronouns are handled by Kleene's second recursion theorem. I can recognize bafflegab when I see it, and that my friend is bafflegab. > >>> >> >>> If there were a 1p-duplication, the diary would contain "Now I have the >>> feeling to see simultaneously the city of W and the city of M". >> >> > >> >> I'm looking at the diary right now and it says "I was the guy at H >> yesterday and now it is February 7 2017 at 1900 >> >> >> GMT and I see W" and >> "I was the guy at H yesterday and now >> It is February 7 2017 at 1900 >> >> GMT and I see M". >> > > > That is nonsense.It is: " I'm looking at the diary right now and > [...] > > It's diaries not diary. Plural. If the machine can duplicate a person it can certainly duplicate a book; and both those quotations are in the diaries of the guy who remembers being in H. John K Clark > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
