On Sun, Apr 2, 2017 at 11:39 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >> >> If God existed He would have absolutely problem in proving His existence >> even to someone like me. > > > > > In which theory? > The guy who said there is no such thing as a stupid question was wrong. God is omnipotent and you are confused as to why I should think such a beings should be able to convince me He exists if He really does! > > Do you, or do you not believe in a primary physical universe. > Google doesn't know what "primary physical universe" means so I'm not sure what you're asking. I can think of 3 possibilities. 1) Do I think a mind can derive the laws of logic from the laws of physics? Yes. 2) Do I think a mind can derive all the laws of physics we see and none of the laws of physics we don't see from nothing but the laws of logic? Maybe, but probably not. 3) Do I think a mind can be derived from nothing but the laws of logic? No. So you tell me, do I "believe in a primary physical universe"? > > > If not what is your theology? > Bruno, 10 years is long enough, you really need to find a new zinger. > > > > You criticize Aristotle but > ... > Screw Aristotle . > > Why do you think Plato > ... > Screw Plato. > > You criticize the antic greeks, but > ... > Screw the ancient Greeks. > > You criticize Aristotle but confess to not having read him OK Bruno, you say you're a logician so try to follow me. 1) Life is too short to read every book ever written. 2) The time spent reading one book is time not spent reading another book. 3) Aristotle would flunk a fourth grade science test. 4) Aristotle would flunk a seventh grade math test. 5) Those who are interested in that sort of thing say that unlike Plato Aristotle's use of language is nothing special. 6) Therefore Aristotle doesn't make the list of books I should read before I die. There is something else that doesn't make the list of things that should be read, all the stuff in a mathematical proof after step 3 if a major blunder has been found there. > > you throw out the distinction between first person and third person > points of view, indeed. That has been shown in all details. > There is an interesting quotation from Hugh Everett, the man who created the Many World's interpretation of Quantum Mechanics: *"When a observer splits it is meaningless to ask which of the final observers corresponds to the initial one since each possess the total memory of the first, it is as foolish as asking which amoeba is the original after it splits into two". * > > It really looks like you are working for the Pope. > Wow, calling a guy known for disliking religion religious, never heard that one before, at least I never heard it before I was 12. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
