On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 1:38 AM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On 19 Jul 2013, at 20:30, John Clark wrote: > > On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 10:59 AM, Kermit Rose <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Is not the polarization of the photon the hidden variable that >> determines the probability of the photon making it through the filter? > > > That is what most people thought until experiments proved that simply > cannot be the explanation because Bell's inequality is violated. And if > that seems like a crazy way for the world to operate don't blame me blame > God, I sent in a resume but unfortunately Yahweh got the job. > > >> Even if Quantum Mechanics is someday proven to be untrue Bell's >>> argument is still valid, in fact his original paper had no Quantum >>> Mechanics in it; >>> >> >> > Exactly. This is why I am puzzled, and why I question the validity of >> the Bell inequality. > > > Bell proved that any system that obeys ANY theory that works by hidden > variables MUST have certain properties; we find from experiment that the > world does NOT have those certain properties, therefore the world CANNOT > work by hidden variables and any theory that tries to use them, now or in > the future, is going to fail. Quantum Mechanics does not work by hidden > variables and that is one reason it has not failed. > > > his point was that any successful theory about the world must explain >>> why his inequality is violated. >>> >> >> > Does Quantum Mechanics explain why his inequality is violated? > > > Nope, it predicts it but doesn't explain it, > > > Contrary to computationalism which both predict and explain non locality, > non cloning of matter, and indeterminacy. We will get there fter I have > explained computability and provability, and the intensional nuance brought > by incompleteness. But the UDA gives the intuition why it would be > astonishing to get the Bell inequality not violated. > > > Bruno, I was wondering if you could shed some light on how the UDA would lead one to expect the violation of the Bell inequality. Jason -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
