On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 3:44 PM, Bruno Marchal <[email protected]> wrote:
> > The strong AI thesis is that such machine would be conscious > Where is the world did you get that idea? The term "strong AI thesis" was invented by working scientists and they have no use for the C word because there is nothing a scientists can do with consciousness, scientists can only work with behavior. The strong AI thesis says a computer can perceive, learn, do mathematics and behave in a intelligent way that is (sometimes) consistent just as humans do. http://planetmath.org/strongaithesis > > > computationalism is the even stronger assumption that "I am machine" and > that I would survive > > in the clinical usual mundane 1p sense > And in their work real AI scientists don't use personal pronouns with no clear referent, nor silly homemade terminology. > > > no digital machine can ever determine which machines she is, nor which > computations support her in arithmetic. > I have no idea what that means and I don't care, I just want to know one thing, can you do better? Do you know " which machines you are , or which computations support you in arithmetic "? > I am a machine, in the strong computationalist sense, entails that neither the physical reality,nor the bio-psycho-theo-logical reality can be 100% computable. Make up your mind! First you say " Actually, computationalism implies it" then you say it doesn't. John K Clark -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
