On Friday, March 9, 2018 at 9:10:22 PM UTC-5, John Clark wrote:
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> On Fri, Mar 9, 2018 at 6:22 PM, Russell Standish <[email protected] 
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> ​Hi Russell​
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> *> Alan was claiming that motion of a free particle along a geodesic was 
>> an unjustified assumption in relativity.*
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>  

> But its not unjustified or an assumption if that's the way we observe 
> things move, and it is. 
>

*Don't you read? I stated that I never made the assumption Russell 
attributed to me. What I did conjecture is that geodesic motion is an 
assumption of GR. Is it? AG* 
 

> *> If he were asking why is momentum conserved, then one could answer it 
>> along the lines of Vic Stenger's symmetries, utilising Noether's theorem.*
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> Yes but Noether's theorem couldn't be invoked and the conservation of 
> momentum produced from it unless there was a symmetry, in this case 
> the fact that the laws of physics are the same at all points in space. 
> Someone could then ask why that is, and at this time the best answer we 
> could give is that’s just what we observe. As far as I can see it is not a 
> logical necessity, physics could have been different from one place to 
> another but we see that is not the case. And Einstein said mass/energy 
> tells spacetime how to curve and spacetime tells mass/energy how to move, 
> but if this were not true it would contradict observations but not produce 
> any logical self contradictions that I know about. In physics if you keep 
> asking recursive "why is that?” questions eventually you'll come to a brute 
> fact. Put it another way, I don't think the laws of physics could be 
> derived from pure logic alone regardless of how intelligent you are, that's 
> why we need observation.
>
 

>    John K Clark
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