On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 1:31:34 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:05, [email protected] <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:16:58 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:58 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >>>> And a brain in a glass box >>>> >>>> would't be isolated either, it would be connected to the internet and >>>> a virtual body or a robot body or anything else it wanted to be connected >>>> to. And the connections would be far more information intensive than the >>>> meager connections brains now have. >>>> >>> >>> >>> > ** >>> *"It" wanted? But without a body "it" wouldn't exist. Before this model >>> passes the smell test, you need a model that explains how "it" comes into >>> being, and where; that is, how it is localized. AG* >>> >> >> As I said before all objections to uploading fall into 2 general >> categories: >> >> >> 1) Although it violates no laws of physics it would be vert hard to >> engineer now and therefore it will always be very hard to engineer. >> >> 2) It does not conform to some variation of the very silly Sacred Atoms >> Theory. >> >> Your objection falls into the second category. >> >> John K Clark >> > > *You don't like the atomic theory of matter, for which there is abundant > empirical evidence, * > > > > There is evidence for physical atoms, but there is no evidence that > physics describe the fundamental theory. That is just a metaphysical > assumption which has been recently debunked. It simply does not work, > unless you evacuate consciousness and first person from the picture. > > Bruno >
*You mean we don't have a Theory of Everything? Haven't you heard? Physics is a work in progress. AG* > > > > *fairly recently revised by quantum theory? What would you replace it > with; a theory of information in the absence of atoms, molecules, etc.? > What would the founders of information theory think about your presumed > proposal? AG* > >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
