On Sunday, April 8, 2018 at 1:31:34 PM UTC, Bruno Marchal wrote: > > > On 29 Mar 2018, at 19:05, agrays...@gmail.com <javascript:> wrote: > > > > On Thursday, March 29, 2018 at 12:16:58 PM UTC-4, John Clark wrote: >> >> >> On Wed, Mar 28, 2018 at 6:58 PM, <agrays...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >>>> >> >>>> And a brain in a glass box >>>> >>>> would't be isolated either, it would be connected to the internet and >>>> a virtual body or a robot body or anything else it wanted to be connected >>>> to. And the connections would be far more information intensive than the >>>> meager connections brains now have. >>>> >>> >>> >>> > ** >>> *"It" wanted? But without a body "it" wouldn't exist. Before this model >>> passes the smell test, you need a model that explains how "it" comes into >>> being, and where; that is, how it is localized. AG* >>> >> >> As I said before all objections to uploading fall into 2 general >> categories: >> >> >> 1) Although it violates no laws of physics it would be vert hard to >> engineer now and therefore it will always be very hard to engineer. >> >> 2) It does not conform to some variation of the very silly Sacred Atoms >> Theory. >> >> Your objection falls into the second category. >> >> John K Clark >> > > *You don't like the atomic theory of matter, for which there is abundant > empirical evidence, * > > > > There is evidence for physical atoms, but there is no evidence that > physics describe the fundamental theory. That is just a metaphysical > assumption which has been recently debunked. It simply does not work, > unless you evacuate consciousness and first person from the picture. > > Bruno >
*You mean we don't have a Theory of Everything? Haven't you heard? Physics is a work in progress. AG* > > > > *fairly recently revised by quantum theory? What would you replace it > with; a theory of information in the absence of atoms, molecules, etc.? > What would the founders of information theory think about your presumed > proposal? AG* > >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Everything List" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to everything-li...@googlegroups.com <javascript:>. > To post to this group, send email to everyth...@googlegroups.com > <javascript:>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Everything List" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to everything-list+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. To post to this group, send email to everything-list@googlegroups.com. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/everything-list. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
